article deist Critique alberto" Atheism can substantiate the psychopath? "of page "Deism." alberto
: "Atheists will you defend the universe from nowhere to nowhere. It is what it appears to assert that no purpose. This is the caricature you propose. "
Review: Only in the most trite and sophists anthropomorphic analogy can be argued that the universe has a purpose in a similar manner to things we design. Nothing natural, unless the collection of all things, has teleological purposes, and that these ends can only be set by the man, not God's entelechy, being contradictory, does not exist. Alberto
: "It is constantly saying that everything works by a process ciegoy erratic, aimless nonprofit, etc with a supuestasregularidades that can take us anywhere ... it seems that the heat death or something ... " Critical
: this is not a caricature alberto absurd result of his straw man fallacy, as many are due to material processes laws of physics and chemistry, then are not as blind or erratic. Organic evolution is not based only on the genetic random, but natural selection is a causal process and that along with random mutations of genes generates ORDER. Alberto
: "You are those who say that the world comes from nowhere and goes nowhere (heat death). Admits neither a before nor afterwards because you assert that neither common sense dogmatic and preguntárselo.La that it refutes Gardner Or have you cambiadode opinion? You never say maybe I do not know ... By the way, purely scientific level there are other answers and much of this is pure speculation. "
Review: 1) No BB theory says that cartoon alberto ridiculous, since the standard theory speaks of a singularity that is not analogous to anything and Gunzig theory and Nordon speak of the quantum vacuum which is not equal to nothing, because it is full of virtual particle activity and physical effects as the Lamb effect. There are also new theories that postulate that BB was not pristine, but our universe is uncreated, infinite and eterno.2) talk before the time when the whole "before" means the time is a meaningless semantic nonsense ... as well as talk about a time without time (sic) .3) It is curious that alberto pontificate against heat death of the universe, where scientists have been believers A. And J. Eddington Jeans have been the most popularized that theory. It is true that all atheists believe in the entropic death of the universe, they do not believe in it Marxist atheists, and atheists buenistas postulating the transcendental subject deny that the universe disappears into nothingness. The latest models of the universe (such as Steinhardt) tell us that it is infinite and there is a big crunch but that's not the end of the universe, because after that would have a new BB and so in infinitum.4) what the Gardner refuting theist atheists? What is the refutation of Gardner for crushing or should I trust you dogmatic "magister dixit" that is only the fallacy of argument from authority?. Alberto
: "They say that ethics is inherent in human beings. Claro.Pero for atheism that means the value of things invented or projected as the hombre.La matter has no inherent value from ateísmo.NO can have. It is a human projection. " Critical
: 1) the ethical and moral reflection on is not inherently human, as occurs in the context of advanced human societies and primitive societies would reflect on the difficult moral moral.La is not unique men, as the ethologists have discovered that some species also have codes morales.2) the value of things not necessarily invented by man, since there are 3 types of values: objective, subjective and mixtos.3) matter, or material objects, if have value inherente.por example, the orange has nutritional value target (since it has vitamin c), which is not an invention of man, and meets the objective need to be nourished with vital vitamin C, without which we scurvy NURSING (unlike the dogs that synthesized in your body) .4) say that matter, to atheists, is a human projection is another straw man fallacy combined with the inverse fallacy of accident, and how can it be that the material or objective reality that exists independently of us .. is a subjective projection of our egos dependent? here alberto takes the part for the whole and assume that because some atheists are subjective idealists (like Nietzsche), then all are, but this is false, since many atheists are materialists (like me for example) and we believe the idealistic nonsense of Bishop Berkeley. Alberto
: "The criterion is to seek an objective foundation of ethics, you think you have an objective and absolute, but can only partially achieved. Ultimately this is based on axioms that are based on the Self ( God). And those principles are: - It is better be alive than dead, healthy than sick .- It is better to be happy than unhappy .- It is better for a culture to survive than perecer. "It's better for the human species survive that are basic tenets extinguirse.Estos and from here razona.Son objectives and are part of an absolute. What do you think God? You can even partially infer from estosaxiomas naturaleza.Ahora provides you, what God says about something in particular? It is nonsense preguntarloporque have no perspective. And you put it in the form of false dilemma fallacy of yes-no. "From the standpoint of direct any slaughter is wrong and what podemosjustificar in the previous axioms. In this sense God does NOT state agreement. "From a Divine cosmic, universal, etc., no formof know. Is what I responded sistemáticamente.La answer is twofold: God does NOT agree from the Punto human, but we can not know from a perspectivaglobal because we can not know "what you have in mind" Goddess long term or global sense the reality that perhaps minimally niconocemos.
Critical : 1) Because God is a contradictory idea, and therefore, impossible as I show in my blog basing on Well, Drange and others, then God is no objective basis for any ethics, as demonstrated in my article "Ethics without God" .2) interestingly some of these principles are upheld by the atheist Well, and Bunge atheist, but not supported by any God, but the "transcendental subject" in the case of Good, and compatibility with the results of science in the case of Bunge.3) the slaughter is wrong not because God says so, but because it violates the axiom of the strength of Good and the atheist Spinoza: "persevere in being" or preserve the material bodies whose base is in the transcendental subject is always in action, and from What, did the world and the world, for good, does not exhaust all of reality is infinita.desde bungeana point of view, the slaughter would be objectively wrong, it is not compatible with the sociological and psychological research, as sociology we recommended greater cohesion and social harmony, which breaks with massacres within society, and psychology shows us the emotional disturbances that kill other causes. Alberto
: "In short, atheism has very short history and extensive massacres. I guess Quete remember Stalin, Mao or the results of the Revolution in the atheistic Enlightenment francesainspirada .. calculates its millions of dead ... of course anti-religious hatred did not affect anything in the burning of churches ... " Critical
: Funny you should mention the French Revolution where most illustrious leaders were not atheists, but rather Deist and if so Deism should impute to the 2 million dead of the French Revolution. There is no doubt that Stalin and Mao were atheists, but it is curious that such atheists accuse of using ad hominem circumstantial fallacy to link with massacres Christian thought, as he does the same as committing the fallacy ad hominem circumstantial, and that the fact that dictators have killed millions atheist tells us nothing about the validity or otherwise of the atheistic doctrine. is a common fallacy distracting, as is the ad hominem fallacy applied to cristianos.ciertamente, anti-religious hatred had to do with church burnings, but what about the burning of pagan temples, mosques, synagogues, temples, Protestant, etc. by enraged Catholics did not ... nothing to do with inter-religious hatred?.
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